Climb your own mountain…

Inspired from Chris’s post

Impressive. Quite eloquent yet still same old Chris underneath.

I think that you are quite right that the religious “seed” of many comes from such spiritually inspiring situations. It is unfortunate that as our memory of the experience fades in time we tend (we as in the world) to latch on to the dogmas we’ve learned/been taught/guilt-ed into rather than maintaining the captivating sense of wonder we originally experienced.

I believe this happens since seeking the truth is difficult, in fact I would even call it scary. When searching for truth you are teetering on a razor-thin cliff which is constantly crumbling underfoot as you ascend. At some point you realize that you have no choice but to switch to another equally precarious ledge in order to continue. The new path will become safer over time, but inevitably it will start to crumble and you will repeat the process again, and again, and …

Isn’t is easier, safer, and more practical to stop and set up camp when the path broadens? Yes in fact it is. But don’t you remember why you started the climb in the first place? Was it to reach safe ground? Or was it to get a better look at the stars in the sky?

Its true that some of you have been carried up some distance unknowingly. Some of you have accepted this and learned to live where you were placed. Yet a few others have either stormed ahead or ran back down as fast as possible, arms failing.

No matter how you have gotten to where you are remember why you have set off on this climb. If you don’t know that answer there is no shame climbing back down. As soon as you reach the bottom you will realize that there is only one way to go — up. You may decide to climb right back up the path you went down or start up another one entirely, but at least this time you will know why.

And equally there is no shame to continue climbing up, even without reason or assurance. You may come to place where you can no longer continue up and have to come back down. But that is not a bad thing since you have learned that the path you were on was not for you.

In fact there there is no shame however fast you are moving up or down, as long as you are moving. Sure every once and a while you may stop and take in the view, but hopefully another glance at the stars will set you in motion again.

I’d have to say that I’m currently taking a slow stroll down mine. Where are you on your mountain?

Good quote! and response…

Edit: I’m not perfect happy with myself for writing this post, but I feel obligated to keep it. I’m not changing my opinion, but I really should have been less direct and less judgemental. I like to think that I’m normally pretty good about trying to express my opinions as just that — options. But it seems like I didn’t do that so well this time. I apologize if I offended anyone. This is obviously a touchy topic for me, though it really is not something I worry about that often. As my mom commented, why the heck do I worry about these things so much? I don’t have a good answer to that, but its something I should certainly think about.

“Our ability to be intelligently unintelligent never ceases to astound me” — Chris Hayden

Well said — there are no disagreements here. One tidbit I’d like to add is that Evolution and Creationism are not contradictory ideas (in my perspective). They only become contradictory when one takes the language from Genesis literally (and pushing fundamentalist I would add).

Let me break out my bible (whew, its been a while!). The rest of you can read at the Bible Gateway if you so desire.

So there are three main issues here (or three obvious issues that I think are the most prevalent). The length of God’s creation work, the creation of Adam from “the dust of the ground” (Genesis 1:7), and the creation of Eve from Adam’s rib.

The basic, basic evolutionary story is just that life started out as simple singular celled organisms in the ocean that eventually (aka billions of years) evolved in to all the biological diversity we have today. If you take the six days of creation as metaphoric/artistic symbolism Genesis’s language does agree that God made life sequentially and gradually both beliefs can coexist peacefully. I also remember reading somewhere that the the original Hebrew word used there for “day” did not necessarily connote the literal “day” that we think of (maybe someone with more motivation and better memory can provide more info).

Now some of you may say that I totally glazed over the “metaphoric/artistic” point, and yes I did. The reason being that it is quite involved to eloguently argue why the Bible should be taken from a more artistic, more storylike perspective (aka above my ability) . So instead I’ll be blunt. Look, life isn’t simple. As modern humans we ask lots of questions and want answers. Things are easier when the answers are given to us verbatim, and many people want to make the Bible an answer book since that would be nice and convenient (and make life simple, careless, and absolutely boring). If the Bible was an answer book then it wouldn’t be so freaking complex and it would actually give answers (most of the time it only makes me ask more questions).

The Bible is not about the words (how many translations and versions are there?). It is about the experience. The experience of engaging in a search for knowledge and truth by following a compelling/artistic/historical/fictional/gruesome/intimate story.

Since its late and I’m not motivated to write a long (well, longer I guess) theological rant, I won’t say too much more. I would like to say that not a single person in the world takes the entire Bible literally. If you disagree with that statement, find me someone who follows all the of rules from Leviticus to the letter or someone that cuts off their hands and feet. The question is not whether you take the whole book/story literally or not, but rather if you tend to the more fundamental or more liberal part of the spectrum.

Whew, the irony here is that this is coming from half-hearted Christian who has gone to church a handful of times in the past several months. Maybe I would be more motivated if I saw Christianity being more of a good thing in the world than another excuse for ignorance and bigotry.

Why don’t all the Americans who are complaining about Fundamental Muslims see the proverbial plank in their own eye — Fundamental Christianity?

Its alright if they don’t call me a Christian, I don’t really want to be associated with them anyway…

The evil fantasy world

So I grabbed a link to this page and started reading.. I was cracking up till the last few frames when I noticed that this guy was serious! …

Its important to note that this was written in the 80′s but he “revisited” the topic here in 1996. I bet this guy would have a field day with my past history with fantasy tabletop and video games. Satanic warfare? … umm, its just a game that I had fun playing. It’d be my guess that the author also thinks that reading Harry Potter is a Christian no-no..

Yes, maybe there are people who took D&D over the edge into instant and psychotic behavior but those people had problems before playing a stupid game. This is the same mentality used to say that video games make kids more violent. Will people (*cough*parents*cough*) ever realize that pointing fingers to blame something else just does not work. Ever. They should be pointing at themselves (or everyone in society as a whole, I’ll agree that parenting is only part of the problem and sometimes the problem is totally unrelated to parenting). Arrrgg….

Combating Christian defensiveness

While I was catching up on reading several new Christian(ish) blogs I’ve subscribed to, I came across this wonderful post on the combativeness that Christians have toward the increasing secularism of today’s culture. It’s about the possible removal of prayer during the inaugration.

Today, Christians are very willing to be hostile toward anything the government or corporations do which infringe the Christian “norm” (for lack of a better word). (Note: yes, hostile is a bit excessive but I need something more than critical and defensive). Most of these things revolve around prayer, sex, marriage, homosexuality, and so on. Its seems that most Christians have been habituated in to thinking that action against any Christian belief/practice is a bad thing. And yes, I do mean to associate this to bells and saliva, since I think this ideology is more instinctual than intellectual.

Anyways, I don’t think I have all my thoughts together to talk about this yet. I’m glad that this person chose to be “rebellious” and help people understand that their instinct and motivation may be (or the seed of it at least) in the right place, but that is only part of our mind and rarely emotions alone come to the correct conclusion. And still I think that is only the beginning of the real point here. Is the government a better blessing to the world being superficially spiritual or earnestly loving? Even more so, does the worry about maintaining public displays of spirituality actually degrade the kind of spirituality we should really be seeking?

Little book review

Here a bit of a change from the semi-regular updates I’ve been posting. I figured that I could give a small review on a couple of books I’ve read recently. These books fill an interesting niche; one that suites myself well, but possibly not many others.

The author of these books is Donald E. Knuth. For those who are not too familiar with Computer Science history (well recent history, Knuth is still very much alive), Knuth is called by some “the Father of Computer Science”. He is widely known for writing three volumes of The Art of Computer Programming, which Amazon.com calls the “definitive description of classical computer science.”

The two books I’ve just finished reading, Things a Computer Scientist Rarely Talks About and 3:16 Bible Texts Illuminated, are different from Knuth’s technical literature because the focus is not about computers, but about spirituality. These books are intertwined since Knuth uses his experiences writing 3:16 as material for Things a Computer Scientist Rarely Talks About. But in both, he combines his experiences as a prominent computer science academic and his experiences as a life-long Christian.

I found both of these books very stimulating and I’d highly suggest for you to look into them if you are a geeky Christian like me. For others who are interested in the crossovers of religion, spirituality, and computer science, Things a Computer Scientist Rarely Talks About may be for you. For those who would like to read about a scientist’s approach to bible interpretation and translation check out 3:16 Bible Texts Illuminated.

For those are not interested in any of these topics, no big deal. Hopefully I read something more in your interests soon.